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Mind Dive, A Podcast for Mental Health Professionals


Welcome to Mind Dive, Menninger's podcast for mental health professionals, with Robert Boland, MD, senior vice president and chief of staff, and Kerry Horrell, PhD.


Podcast Focus

Twice a month, they dive into topics that fascinate them as clinical professionals and hopefully fascinate you, too. They examine dilemmas faced by professionals here at Menninger and colleagues across the nation while working with some of the most challenging cases. They explore the latest research and other trending topics on the minds of psychiatrists, psychologists and others who are interested in the treatment and study of the mind. 


Drs. Boland and Horrell also make it a goal to cover information that gets little attention in formal training programs.


Most Recent Episodes


Episode 27: OCD: An Expert's Inside Perspective with Elizabeth McIngvale, PhD, LCSW

At 12-years-old, Elizabeth McIngvale, PhD, LCSW, was diagnosed with obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). By age 17, she found success in evidence-based treatment at Menninger and became a national spokesperson for patients. Now, 20 years later, she treats OCD patients of her own, while still advocating to end stigma and misconceptions about OCD and perfectionism. 
Dive into this episode of The Menninger Clinic’s Mind Dive podcast for an expert’s insider journey of OCD. Also explored are the contrasts of OCD and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (OCPD) and how doctors can improve patient treatment by recognizing and acknowledging the differences.  
Elizabeth McIngvale, PhD, LCSW, is the director of McLean OCD Institute at Houston. She currently serves on the faculty at Harvard Medical School and founded the Peace of Mind Foundation and, both now within the International OCD Foundation.
“My message to patients is that we are going to get them back to functioning, but we should really be fighting for freedom from their illness,” said Dr. McIngvale. “We are fighting to get them to a life where they can make decisions for themselves and live by their values, not their diagnosis.”
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Meet the Hosts

Dr. Boland is an educator at heart with decades of experience teaching and mentoring psychiatry residents. In addition to his roles at Menninger, he is the executive vice chair of the Menninger Department of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences at Baylor College of Medicine.


A psychologist on our Compass Program for Young Adults, Dr. Horrell also loves teaching. She completed a predoctoral internship and postgraduate fellowship at Menninger and Baylor College of Medicine. 


Both are well read, love canines (and have to resist rescuing too many) and are curious about many subjects. 


Join Us

We hope you’ll join us on our podcast journey. And if you have a topic in mind that you would like us to dive into, drop us a note


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